Unpacking & Embracing Gender Equity (Encore) // with Annie Warshaw
What is equality? What is equity? What is gender equity? How can we embrace all of these?
In this episode of Know Them, Be Them, Raise Them, Annie Warshaw, co-founder of Mission Propelle and a gender justice professor at Roosevelt University, unpacks gender equity in her chat with host Carmelita Tiu.
In this episode, Annie:
- Answers the question, "What is gender equity?"
- Explains how we can be aware of gender equity and encourage it
- Tells us the 3 things that will make her feel like she’s raised her sons successfully
- Helps us reframe our beliefs about old-school etiquette so we can foster more equitable gender roles
- Talks about the importance of having a list of shared family values
To learn more about Annie Warshaw and her work:
- for equity consulting and coaching, visit missionpropelle.com, or follow @mission_propelle on Instagram
- for information about Youth Alliance Yoga, go to youthallianceyoga.com
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Transcript
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: Hello, everyone.
Speaker:So as you know, March is women's history month.
Speaker:And March 8th is international women's day.
Speaker:The theme for 2023 is embrace equity.
Speaker:This immediately made me think of an early episode I did with Annie
Speaker:Warshaw, who is a professor of gender studies at Roosevelt university.
Speaker:And founder of mission propel.
Speaker:I really listened to it and really took away many things
Speaker:that either I had forgotten.
Speaker:Or was hearing in a different way so i decided to rehear it and
Speaker:you'll be hearing that shortly
Speaker:Before we go there.
Speaker:I wanted to call out a distinction that the international
Speaker:women's day organization.
Speaker:Thanks.
Speaker:It's helpful to understand as we think about embracing equity.
Speaker:And that is the difference between equality and equity.
Speaker:Equality means each individual or group of people is given the
Speaker:same resources or opportunities.
Speaker:Equity recognizes that each person has different circumstances.
Speaker:And gives the exact resources and opportunities needed.
Speaker:To reach an equal outcome.
Speaker:One thing that really helped me understand the distinction that you may have seen.
Speaker:Is this cartoon of individuals trying to look over a fence there's basically two.
Speaker:Two sides to the cartoon.
Speaker:One is labeled equality and one is labeled equity.
Speaker:On the equality side, you see three.
Speaker:Individuals of different Heights, all trying to see over a fence,
Speaker:there's a tall, a middle-sized one and a shorter one.
Speaker:Person.
Speaker:And they're all standing on the same sized box.
Speaker:Unfortunately, that means that the shortest person still can't see
Speaker:over the fence, the middle-sized person can just peek over and the
Speaker:tall person can see over easily.
Speaker:On the other side of the cartoon it's labeled equity.
Speaker:And there the tall person has a box that allows them to see over the fence.
Speaker:The middle-sized person has a taller box that also allows them
Speaker:to see over the fence and the shorter person has the tallest box.
Speaker:So all three individuals can see easily over the fence with different sized boxes.
Speaker:That really drove the point home.
Speaker:So equality might mean giving people equal opportunities.
Speaker:But equity looks like people having the same experience and,
Speaker:and being able to engage in those opportunities in a meaningful way.
Speaker:It really speaks to meeting people where they are and embracing differences.
Speaker:I hope this will inspire you to think about equity.
Speaker:And how you might embrace equity going forward.
Speaker:Welcome to know them.
Speaker:Be them, raise them a show to help moms stay informed and inspired so
Speaker:they can show up for themselves and their daughters the way they want to.
Speaker:I'm your host Carmelita to join me each week.
Speaker:As I cover a variety of topics, all designed to support, mindful and growth
Speaker:oriented moms navigating these crucial years, I'll talk to experts, moms who've
Speaker:been there and read a curated selection of articles with the author's permission
Speaker:and drop in with my own thoughts on it.
Speaker:This week's episode features Annie Warshaw co-founder of mission propel
Speaker:and a gender justice professor at Roosevelt university in our chat.
Speaker:She shares the evolution of mission propel breaks down what gender equity
Speaker:is, explains how we can be aware of it and encourage it, and even how to reframe
Speaker:our beliefs about old school etiquette.
Speaker:So we can foster more equitable gender roles.
Speaker:And if you're hearing some scratching noises, it's not.
Speaker:It's me, it was a new podcast or misstep my ears just weren't attuned
Speaker:to the noises when we were recording.
Speaker:I think they're mostly in the first couple of minutes, but stick with me.
Speaker:I promise there are some great takeaways.
Annie Warshaw:uh, so thank you so much for having me on, I
Annie Warshaw:really admire what you're trying to do and just appreciate it.
Annie Warshaw:So I have two companies prior to the pandemic mission.
Annie Warshaw:Propels mission was to empower girls, to be advocates for themselves within
Annie Warshaw:their classrooms and communities and for boys to be allies towards girls for
Annie Warshaw:the K through five groups of children.
Annie Warshaw:And the way that we were doing that was we were working with in schools.
Annie Warshaw:Using original storybooks that myself and my business partner
Annie Warshaw:wrote, and we paired it with yoga.
Annie Warshaw:We have served over 10,000 students in the Chicago land area.
Annie Warshaw:And then the pandemic hit and then we had no business because the school is closed.
Annie Warshaw:So we pivoted and quite frankly, we were kind of like, you know, we
Annie Warshaw:had been running this business for seven years and we're like, we would
Annie Warshaw:like a little bit of a change here.
Annie Warshaw:That business, is now youth Alliance, yoga for short gay that
Annie Warshaw:is still functioning in schools.
Annie Warshaw:Mission propel is now the name for our new business.
Annie Warshaw:And what we do is work to keep moms from dropping out of the workplace.
Annie Warshaw:We have a two-pronged approach.
Annie Warshaw:We work with corporations and nonprofits and we coach their employees on how
Annie Warshaw:to create a sustainable loving home.
Annie Warshaw:So we work on relationships.
Annie Warshaw:We work on, Actually creating a sustainable schedule, having
Annie Warshaw:an equitable partnership.
Annie Warshaw:And then we do policy review of the workplace and we say,
Annie Warshaw:look, we took care of this.
Annie Warshaw:Person's home now.
Annie Warshaw:Here's what you need to shift work-wise and culture-wise, if you want this
Annie Warshaw:person to actually stay and feel invested in your company, love it.
Annie Warshaw:So those.
Annie Warshaw:Yeah.
Annie Warshaw:So that has been going really well.
Annie Warshaw:It's been really interesting and it's really exciting for Jill and I, my
Annie Warshaw:business partner, because we're getting to do something that we also love.
Annie Warshaw:Like we loved working with kids, but now we're getting to teach
Annie Warshaw:parents all of the skills that we've acquired over the past, um, 15 years.
Annie Warshaw:And it's been really fun.
Annie Warshaw:It really
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:kind of.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Some of my thinking about, showing up as a mom for our daughters, like,
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:it's, you, you both have to empower your daughter, but you also have to
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:model these behaviors and structures that you want the future to look like.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:So you kind of address that through both of those angles, like the work
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:you're doing now, establishing.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Things should look like at home and then also at work, I think it's phenomenal.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Yeah.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Yeah.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:A good
Annie Warshaw:chunk of what we do when we're talking about like
Annie Warshaw:parenting and building emotional intelligence and that sort of stuff.
Annie Warshaw:It's really all around like what we as parents are doing and how we're
Annie Warshaw:modeling that, you know, we often talk about, especially when we're working
Annie Warshaw:with dad, clients, or moms who like are going to go then talk to their partner.
Annie Warshaw:If they're male identified, you know, the skillset versus.
Annie Warshaw:Value set in how we teach skills, verse values.
Annie Warshaw:Um, so this idea of like, you need to listen to me because I said so like
Annie Warshaw:is not teaching any skill it's and it's not teaching any value either.
Annie Warshaw:Right?
Annie Warshaw:Like the idea is, well, I'm teaching you respect, you don't teach respect.
Annie Warshaw:You show respect, you model respect.
Annie Warshaw:You talk about respect, but by having your kid brush their teeth,
Annie Warshaw:because you said they need to brush their teeth is not teaching them.
Annie Warshaw:You're in that circumstance, what your objective is, is to teach them a
Annie Warshaw:skill, which is to brush their teeth.
Annie Warshaw:So the mechanism of which you get them to do that can vary.
Annie Warshaw:And, you know, we talked about those strategies.
Annie Warshaw:Walking away being like, you have to do this.
Annie Warshaw:Cause I said, so like, isn't going to get you the outcome that you're intending.
Annie Warshaw:And so when we think about like modeling in that particular
Annie Warshaw:circumstance, it's really about showing respect and how do you listen?
Annie Warshaw:Why don't they want to brush their teeth?
Annie Warshaw:Like how can you provide them the structure and routine
Annie Warshaw:and consistency, versus.
Annie Warshaw:I'm doing this cause, or you're going to do this cause
Annie Warshaw:I told you so, which teaches?
Annie Warshaw:No.
Annie Warshaw:Right.
Annie Warshaw:So
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:it's something that I, I know I grew up
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:with, um, you know, love my parents.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:We get along great now, but there are definitely were definitely times growing
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:up where I'm like, why am I doing.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:So I love that.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:You're kind of getting at that, like, it's not enough to just say yeah.
Annie Warshaw:I mean, because I had the same feeling and like, I mean, most
Annie Warshaw:people say that stuff because they're reverting to like what their parents
Annie Warshaw:taught them, but teaching our kids, for example, how to advocate for themselves.
Annie Warshaw:If they do ask a question and you just shut them down, like, well, I told him,
Annie Warshaw:so I told you so like, The opposite of what you're trying to foster within them.
Annie Warshaw:Right?
Annie Warshaw:You want them to question that and if they are questioning things and
Annie Warshaw:you're shooting them, then down, then they're going to say, well,
Annie Warshaw:I should stop questioning things.
Annie Warshaw:Or my voice is not valid as a space, so I'm not going to use it.
Annie Warshaw:Um, and so like, if we want them doing that as a school, we need to
Annie Warshaw:be also like offering that at home
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:one hot.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:I love what you're saying.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Run a hundred percent agree.
Annie Warshaw:So kind of.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Jumping up to like a 35,000 foot view.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Um, can you tell our listeners how you define gender equity
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:and why it's important?
Annie Warshaw:Yeah.
Annie Warshaw:Um, I guess I should say so when I'm not doing those two companies, I teach gender
Annie Warshaw:justice, which is like the new women in gender studies at Roosevelt university.
Annie Warshaw:Um, so like, everything I do is through this lens of gender.
Annie Warshaw:So I have, , Two sons and a daughter and it goes, boy, girl, boy.
Annie Warshaw:And I will tell you like, this conversation is very much obviously
Annie Warshaw:centered around girls, but once I had a son, I was like, oh
Annie Warshaw:my God, my world is in girls.
Annie Warshaw:I, what am I going to do with this person?
Annie Warshaw:And I became super passionate and I've done so much reading about like
Annie Warshaw:toxic masculinity and, I feel like if my, there are so many supports in
Annie Warshaw:this world for girls, and that is not to say that we have gotten anywhere
Annie Warshaw:near where we need to for women.
Annie Warshaw:But we, as a culture, I think at least understand that we need
Annie Warshaw:to provide programming for girls and you know, that kind of stuff.
Annie Warshaw:And we know, you know, you could go buy a girl power shirt.
Annie Warshaw:We have not done nearly as much for boys in terms of.
Annie Warshaw:Teaching them how to be emotionally literate so that they can be real
Annie Warshaw:allies and show up for girls not to be pessimistic, but like, if we're not
Annie Warshaw:doing that, we're never going to reach equity in the way that we want to.
Annie Warshaw:Uh, you know, so my.
Annie Warshaw:There's like three things that if my sons do, I will feel like an accomplished
Annie Warshaw:parent first being voting, like that's hands down, they have to do that.
Annie Warshaw:And then the other one is like, I never want them to be a burden to
Annie Warshaw:whoever their partner is in terms of cleaning like this whole, like women
Annie Warshaw:meant to load, you know, all that, like that's skills that have been taught.
Annie Warshaw:I want them to be in a partnership and be able to look in a kitchen, look around.
Annie Warshaw:Oh, look, that thing was left out.
Annie Warshaw:I'm going to go put it away without being told.
Annie Warshaw:That is how I will say I love it.
Annie Warshaw:You know, that's not fair to their, if they have a female
Annie Warshaw:partner not fair to them.
Annie Warshaw:And then that that's like a snowball effect of like all these other
Annie Warshaw:things that will be a burden to her, which will keep her from progressing
Annie Warshaw:perhaps in her own life, in the way that she wants professionally.
Annie Warshaw:Yeah.
Annie Warshaw:And then the other piece is, you know, obviously they have to be a good,
Annie Warshaw:outstanding human who's like, can have, I want them to be able to have like
Annie Warshaw:real strong relationships with other men where they can talk about their feelings.
Annie Warshaw:So for the boys, that's like my goal.
Annie Warshaw:Um, those are wonderful goals.
Annie Warshaw:Yeah.
Annie Warshaw:I mean, and we all benefit from that.
Annie Warshaw:Um, but for the, the question about gender equity, I mean, Within to that, right?
Annie Warshaw:Like it's not just about women advancing it's about men being
Annie Warshaw:able to be fully realized humans, which ultimately benefits women.
Annie Warshaw:I mean, obviously there's huge links between like toxic masculinity and
Annie Warshaw:violence against women or the male gaze and how women view their own bodies.
Annie Warshaw:But for me, ultimately, you know, gender equity is about getting
Annie Warshaw:rid of patriarchy and maybe.
Annie Warshaw:Not just opportunity, but everyone, no matter their gender identity is
Annie Warshaw:treated with fairness and kindness, and doesn't matter who they are and
Annie Warshaw:are afforded the same opportunities and can live freely in the same way.
Annie Warshaw:So I can kind of
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:curious, like as parents and looking at schools
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:or programs or environments, are there things that we should look for?
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:That are characteristics of a place that values gender equity
Annie Warshaw:From a high level sort of, you know, district-wide, I think a
Annie Warshaw:lot of schools or districts are moving towards like an equity framework.
Annie Warshaw:But oftentimes I think that that's still steeped in either racial
Annie Warshaw:diversity or ethnic diversity.
Annie Warshaw:And I don't see as much cognitive awareness around gender.
Annie Warshaw:So something as simple as like, what kind of language are they using?
Annie Warshaw:Is it like gender inclusive?
Annie Warshaw:Um, do they have a gender inclusive bathroom?
Annie Warshaw:And this to me is in the elementary school that should exist.
Annie Warshaw:And if they don't, what is their plan for that?
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:I just want to interject that.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:I would love that.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:I think, I mean, I feel like everyone's learning as we go along, but I, I
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:witnessed so many, elementary school students that are clearly on a journey
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:and having a gender neutral bathroom, which would just make it easier.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:And I, and I think more respectful to them.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Yeah.
Annie Warshaw:Cause I do feel like people, I starting at least
Annie Warshaw:in middle school, but I have not really seen it in elementary schools.
Annie Warshaw:I agree.
Annie Warshaw:I mean, through the old mission, probably.
Annie Warshaw:Yeah.
Annie Warshaw:I mean, we've had, we had so many non-binary students, uh, you
Annie Warshaw:know, starting in kindergarten.
Annie Warshaw:Um, In terms of what a classroom, I mean, the books that are selected.
Annie Warshaw:Oh yeah.
Annie Warshaw:Um, you know, and, and if your teacher might not be.
Annie Warshaw:They might be very well-intentioned it just like not, no, like, I think as a
Annie Warshaw:parent, like being like, oh, I heard about this really great book that has a gender
Annie Warshaw:fluid character or something like that.
Annie Warshaw:because you know, I can think about like my son's preschool teachers
Annie Warshaw:and they're lovely people, but I know they're not like, let me go
Annie Warshaw:find them was LGBTQ friendly books, but I know about all those books.
Annie Warshaw:So I'm more than happy to be like, this is a really funny book or whatever.
Annie Warshaw:so I think the converse and then also, you know, the.
Annie Warshaw:History is being framed, how they're talking about different events.
Annie Warshaw:Like I know there's a lot of debate going on around critical race theory.
Annie Warshaw:I'm a trained historian.
Annie Warshaw:And for me, I care, like I always, study like social history.
Annie Warshaw:So like, what were everyday women doing during this time period or whatever it is.
Annie Warshaw:So, you know, a history teacher.
Annie Warshaw:Does not have to integrate or implement, sorry.
Annie Warshaw:Rather like a specific curriculum.
Annie Warshaw:They can talk about like ordinary people and what they were doing and give more
Annie Warshaw:perspective on, That there were other people in history besides white men, um,
Annie Warshaw:without it being controversial, honestly.
Annie Warshaw:, so, you know, when you're talking about like, what were women's roles
Annie Warshaw:during the American revolution or whatever, it's not a controversial
Annie Warshaw:thing, but, um, so yeah, so there are many things teachers could be doing.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Absolutely.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:So I'm curious what, as we're thinking about.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:the ways our environments can support or hinder our efforts.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:How do you feel about like my I'm a big manners person, but related to that,
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:my parents were always like, might to my brother, you open doors for women.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:, to me, uh, when you're on a date, you should expect the guy to pay.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Um, so how do we reconcile?
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Kind of manners and etiquette and, and the potential for
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:reinforcing in equitable roles.
Annie Warshaw:I mean, to me, it's about, you should be opening the door for anyone
Annie Warshaw:because it's the kind of thing to do.
Annie Warshaw:Like, it doesn't matter who they are and if you don't want to open the door,
Annie Warshaw:you're not opening the door for anyone.
Annie Warshaw:So to me, it's more about like, if you're.
Annie Warshaw:Teaching those values from day.
Annie Warshaw:One about like, here are manners that we treat all people with.
Annie Warshaw:It's not going to be a conversation ever around like, well, you're a boy,
Annie Warshaw:so you need to open the door for a girl.
Annie Warshaw:I see someone who needs a door open.
Annie Warshaw:I opened the door for them.
Annie Warshaw:Like I don't assess.
Annie Warshaw:Oh, well, that man has strong arms.
Annie Warshaw:He couldn't do it himself.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:You know, I'm going to wait for this
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:man to open the door for me.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Like, yeah,
Annie Warshaw:no you do.
Annie Warshaw:I, when I have a stroller, when people open a door for me yeah.
Annie Warshaw:Because that's the right thing to do.
Annie Warshaw:You see a person struggling, you help them, you know?
Annie Warshaw:So like that's the values.
Annie Warshaw:And I think those are the conversations you can have with your kids of
Annie Warshaw:like, what are general values that you believe in as a family?
Annie Warshaw:And how do you show up for other people using them?
Annie Warshaw:We, as a family, have a family values that like we talk about and
Annie Warshaw:all decisions are made based off of.
Annie Warshaw:And that, you know, I think when you have something to go back to in that way,
Annie Warshaw:then you can, when you're having those harder conversations, you can talk about
Annie Warshaw:like, well, does it align with this?
Annie Warshaw:What does this look like in real life?
Annie Warshaw:and you can talk about that, especially, you know, your kids are old enough where
Annie Warshaw:you can have that actual conversation.
Annie Warshaw:Whereas with toddlers, I'm going to be talking about.
Annie Warshaw:Hey, I'm carrying this really heavy thing and I can't hold the door right up and
Annie Warshaw:you hold it for me to help them learn.
Annie Warshaw:Like, this is what you do to help other people out.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Right.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Family values.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:We were just talking about kind of using our next big family dinner to each
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:contribute, different things that we want to be on the family values list.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:So hearing you say that.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Synchronicity like the universe telling me, or they, I
Annie Warshaw:love that you're going to have them involved.
Annie Warshaw:Right.
Annie Warshaw:Because then they can feel more ownership over.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Yeah.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Yeah.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:So, so much good stuff.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:For some reason, one aha moment for me, one point that really resonated was that
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:in addition to empowering our daughters, we need to support emotional literacy
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:and boys and teach them how to be allies.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:I know this on a gut level, like I know how important it is and how good
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:it feels to have a supportive partner, but how is the mass media, retail
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:culture, our systems and structures, et cetera, really encouraging that.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:I'm optimistic that a lot of today's parents have this on their radar.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:It actually reminded me of my friend's son.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:She has three daughters and one son.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:And when she found a hair rubber band in his backpack and asked him about it,
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:he said he carried it just in case one of the girls, his sisters needed it.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:How amazing is that?
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:And think how much easier, safer and fairer would the world be for girls
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:and women, if that kind of empathy and thoughtfulness was more widespread.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:So to recap the key takeaways from my chat with Annie, number one,
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:we want our kids to question us.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:It may sometimes feel like disagreement or maybe even rebelliousness, but if we
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:want our kids to thoughtfully question things outside of the home, whether
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:it's school, their activities in the workplace and in society, they have
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:to feel safe asking questions of you.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:If we shut them down, they'll learn that their voices aren't valid.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Number two.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:If we want gender equity, we need to not just support girls, but
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:support boys and becoming emotionally literate so they can become allies
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:and are aware of alternatives to messages of toxic masculinity.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Gender equity is not just about women advancing it's about men.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Being able to be fully realized humans it's about everyone, no
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:matter their gender identity, being treated with fairness and kindness,
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:having the same opportunities and being able to live freely.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Number four.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Being aware of gender equity means noticing the language that's used the
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:presence of gender neutral options, like bathrooms and the books and media
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:that are available to us and our kids.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:And number five, come up with a list of family values that you and your family
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:can use to help guide decisions and actions, things like kindness, fairness.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:Applying these to everyone, regardless of gender essentially takes a
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:gender neutral approach and that helps foster equitable relations.
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:To learn more about mission propel and the gender equity consulting
Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:and coaching they provide.
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